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JSC, a business consultancy which specializes in the Chinese automotive market is to be understood that the proportion of electric vehicles in China, contrary to the landing, will not rise. Decisive for this is the fact that from 2025 the fleet consumption is no longer measured in fuel consumption, but in CO2 consumption.
But what impact does this? In detail, not only gasoline and diesel would be negative, even electric vehicles and plug-in hybrids would also be occupied with their electricity consumption – converted into CO2. Methanol, hydrogen and e-fuel vehicles, however, would be estimated with a CO2 consumption of zero. This creates significant advantages for fuel cell technology on the sheet of paper.
“Many still believe that the share of electric vehicles in China will rise sharply in the coming years. We can not confirm this. Rather, a compartment was opened on technologies in the combustion area.”- Jochen Siebert, Managing Director of JSC Automotive
China wants to use local raw materials to benefit
In particular, methanol, hydrogen and low-consumption gasoline tin then gain in importance. Finally, in the center of Chinese policy, the independence of the energy and raw material supply, which was further manifested by trading war. China profits the bulk of its coal energy that is available in your own country. In the future, methanol should be created from coal gasification and used in combination with electrolysis to obtain hydrogen and e-fuels. Thus, one could use the raw materials existing in the country to their own benefit. In the production of pure e-cars, dependency would merely shift because China needs to import raw materials for batteries.
Cleaning can be clarified in 2019 that the Chinese electric car market is noticeably suffering from the degradation of government subsidies for electric cars. By the end of August, the e-auto market has again recorded a negative growth. From 2021, subsidies for fuel cell vehicles should now be deleted, despite what you put on the hopes for this drive. It is well known above all the fuel cell in the focus of the Chinese government. By 2030, China wants to see millions of fuel cell vehicles on the street. Strongly driven by the new fleet consumption measurement mentioned above from 2025.
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In this chain necessarily also the energy application and pollutant emissions of the substances used in the vehicle, for example. Methanol). How clean is in the course of the operation of such a China-methanol, China–hydrogen or China-e-fuel vehicle?
Thanks in advance for your research and analyzing.
“Methanol, hydrogen and e-fuel vehicles, however, would be estimated with a CO2 consumption of zero. “
You’re welcome???
H2 comes from which probably from natural occurrences?
Exciting!
Hydrogen is obtained to over 90% of natural gas. As waste arises CO2. Although methanol is generated from hydrogen, while CO2 is required which is released again in the subsequent “combustion” in the cell, thus theoretical in solar power electrolysis neutrality would prevail …But only if the efficiency would be 100%. And what is the energy needed to start the endothermic process for methanol conversion? Is swept under the table. So of course everything can be expected. And benzene vapors are not exactly healthy. Someone has thought that methanol vapors are highly toxic?
In coal gasification, however, CO2 is also free (can sometimes be separated but still)). Likewise in the conversion of methanol to hydrogen. Climate protection is no longer about geopolitics.
Quote “In detail, not only gasoline and diesel would be negative, even electric vehicles and plug-in hybrids would be occupied with their electricity consumption – converted into CO2 -. Methanol, hydrogen and e-fuel vehicles, however, would be estimated with a CO2 consumption of zero.”
Today, in electric vehicles, no C02 exposure is credited, in the near future is credited in electric vehicles but not in methanol, H2 and E-Fuel. Then, the CO2 emissions at methanol, H2 and E-Fuel is credited in the long term.
Advantageously, an import of regeneratively generated energy sources would be easily transported and stored over 10000km, in contrast to electrical current.
CO2-free hydrogen from coal flow, what an insanity.
@Sebastian: In the FOCUS everything is something detailed described. You could still go to detail there (but still thanks for the latest news):
https: // http://www.focus.DE / Finance / Boerse / Wash One-Disaster Fuer-Volkswagen-China-Avoid Partial Reversing-by-ElectroAuto_ID_11446352.HTML
To the technology, I think that’s what I think:
Methanol and coal detection have nothing to do with electricalysis.
but methanol or hydrogen for the fuel cell
Here’s information about Methanol, Deutsche SFC AG already builds these cells for a while in series:
https: // http://www.SFC.COM / SFC Energy / Technology / Direct Methanol /
https: // en.Wikipedia.org / wiki / direct_methanol_fuel_cell
And if I read the focus right, the law is not decided yet, so wait 5 years ..
And if you calculate the CO2 from oil refining transport correctly, e-cars are still in the advantage
@ Philipp K
For me, the source situation at the FOCUS article seems to be the same. The focus is just under his interests against China as a whole.
Since the law is planned for 2025 I see that very relaxed. Until then, you will put in for economic reasons for battery-electric vehicles, with the others, the efficiency chain is simply too bad than it can prevail for cars at the mass market
And I always thought the Chinese would be on a good way towards the promotion of renewable energies and the clean transport. What a disappointment and what a disaster for climate protection!