Flame-Inferno in Stuttgart
Speculations about electrical buses as the cause: third Bus depot large fire this year
Andreas Rosar/dpa In the evening there was a fire in the bus depot of the Stuttgart Verkehrsbetiebe.
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Site editor Sebastian Viehmann
Dusseldorf, Hanover and now Stuttgart: Another major fire in a bus depot. Speculators are speculated via electric buses as a cause of the fire. That is not confirmed. However, the giant streamers always cause the fire brigade problems with deleting.
Huge clouds of smoke over the city, an hour-long flame inferno, hundreds of firefighters in action. What is left are burned -out and smoking skeletons of 20 buses.At the major fire on a company premises of Stuttgart Strabenbahnen AG (SSB), at least 20 buses were completely destroyed on Thursday evening according to DPA information. A total of 210 firefighters were deployed to extinguish the flames, the fire brigade announced on Friday morning. There were also no two bus classic cars from the historical collection of the transport companies. And there were injuries. Two people were taken to the hospital with flue gas poisoning.
Special extinguishing measures for e-buses
Eyewitnesses reported the fire around 8 p.m. Police officers then locked the area far, a police helicopter supported the use of the air. The cause is still unclear. According to previous information, arson excludes the police.
Tom Weller/dpa/archive picture Firefighters stand in front of burned -out buses.
Problems also caused the rescuers with a bus with batteries on board. "In the morning, several fire brigade vehicles were also used to monitor an burned -out electrical bus that could eventually ignite again. According to the fire brigade, the roof of the depot is at risk of collapse", report the "Stuttgart news". Normal water is enough to delete and cool the batteries – but enormous amounts are used. In addition, the batteries must be monitored after the fire.
Electric bus opens up in flames when charging and triggers chain reaction
Cameraone Electric bus opens up in flames when charging and triggers chain reaction
Third bus depot fire this year
The flame inferno in the Kessel in Stuttgart was already the third major fire in a bus depot this year:
- In April, a bus depot of the Rheinbahn in Dusseldorf burned. 38 vehicles were destroyed.
- In June it hit a hall of the ustra in Hanover. Here eight buses became a robbery of the flames. The charging infrastructure for the e-buses in the hall had also been destroyed in the fire.
Striking in all three fire disasters: In addition to conventional buses, electric buses were also affected (eight at the Rheinbahn, five at the ustra and at least one in Stuttgart), which on the one hand made it difficult to extinguish the extinguishing work due to the complex battery fires to be managed and on the other hand The assumption that a defect in the battery or the loading device could also have been the cause of the fire.
David Young/dpa/current The burned -out parking hall of the Rheinbahn.
Cause due to extreme destruction "can not be determined"
So far, this can not be confirmed or excluded. At the Rheinbahn fire there was an investigation by the insurance company, but this should not have led to any result. At the request of site, a company spokeswoman shared with: "The experts of the insurance companies – like the report of the Dusseldorf public prosecutor – came to the conclusion that the fire had a technical cause, but could no longer be clearly determined due to the sustainable fire progress and the enormous degree of destruction." The ustra says on request: "The cause of the fire is not yet known to us."
WETRAX GmbH Fire protection expert Nikki Traxel
It is clear regardless of the cause of the fire that electrified vehicles that are equipped with huge batteries are more difficult to extinguish the fire brigade than normal fires. Fire protection expert Niki Traxel, a specialist in dealing with burning lithium-ion batteries, said in an interview with Site: “Depot fires are always a dreaded scenario because vehicles are close together and the fire quickly from one vehicle on the other can spread. As a safety measure, a distance between the vehicles is important during charging-because during the loading process, the risk of a brand is greatest."And the effort to delete hybrids and electric cars is considerable .
Electrical and diesel: Both are fire -threatening
"The ideal safety precaution would be to load each vehicle separately in its own fire-proof parking bay-this also applies to electric cars in underground garages. In addition, the battery temperature can be monitored. Smoke detectors can detect out of the battery before a fire", says the expert. But you should not only take precautions for electric buses. Because diesel buses also have a problem, says fire expert Traxel: "There are also special extinguishing systems for diesel or gas-powered buses, which are extinguishing cartridges in the engine compartment. There is a problem with diesel vehicles that have increasingly occurs since the new Euro 6 exhaust gas standards with SCR catalysts to reduce nitrogen oxides: Because very high temperatures are used for this reaction, around 600 degrees, there is an enormous heat in the catalysts. In the event of a defect, there can be a fire very quickly."
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The truth is a big lie
When e-cigarettes came onto the market, they were combated by all means and warned of. … When e-cigarettes came onto the market, they were combated by all means and warned of explosions. Many dramatic photo found the way into the presses. And the truth? An e-cigarette does not explode, only the battery as a component can. And exactly the same 18650 cells, only a lot of them, are installed in electric cars. Then nothing explodes there? Incredible all of these fairy tales.
So the bus depots did not burn?
No batteries have exploded in Eisenberg, Gimbsheim etc? No Teslas and Opels / GM burned down, no VWS Z.B. in Holland? By the way, cars are no longer operated by bike and model building batteries. A Tesla Brand reported in detail here, 2 dead. Deleted battery started to burn after 5 days. Head in the sand, I see and hear nothing, everything lie, already of course.
Smoking skeleton of 20 buses
Well, which was probably released in this fire as a whole of CO2 and other environmental toxins, because these buses could have certainly driven all their vehicle life with diesel. Hybrids are also a gloom of their users. The battery drives the car on and from 120, or when the battery gets empty, the petrol engine starts. But not at idle, let alone at the operating temperature, but a cold motor immediately goes to speed. Whether someone has already thought of driving a hybrid in his hype? VW Passat, 90 TKM, every 10tkm oil change and 4x set of new brake discs, not because of wear, but due to rust through the TuV. All these e-cars are really great and ecologically sensible. This nonsense in the EU never saves a world climate.
Bus fire
Finally a couple come up with the idea that electrical scrap is and leave the boxes. Now our politicians should only repay what they have inserted as a lubrication, where everyone else would hike in jail.
Now the lobby relativizes come again
How many bus depots and battery cars have to burn spontaneously with the release of immense amounts of pollutants until e-disciples recognize the danger of this technology? The research results of the University of Ulm are simply ignored. That seems too complex. It is better to know how to capture funding and subsidies in billions of billions, which is less "technically". And striving to see these money continues to see, no matter how, burning buses, mail cars and cars do not interfere. Reports about this are actively suppressed by influencing politics and the media, the "stupid michel" yes unsettling. H2 buses have been in trouble in some cities for years. The Li Akku technology is by no means without alternative. There are funding, not the security in focus
Now the lobby relativizes come again
How many bus depots and battery cars have to burn spontaneously with the release of immense amounts of pollutants until e-disciples recognize the danger of this technology? The research results of the University of Ulm are simply ignored. That seems too complex. It is better to know how to capture funding and subsidies in billions of billions, which is less "technically". And striving to see these money continues to see, no matter how, burning buses, mail cars and cars do not interfere. Reports about this are actively suppressed by influencing politics and the media, the "stupid michel" yes unsettling. H2 buses have been in trouble in some cities for years. The Li Akku technology is by no means without alternative. There are funding, not the security in focus
Blinded combustion drivers
With all the anti-electric comments you could really think there would be an alternative to electric vehicles. The forever yesterday… Climate messages are simply left out. The fact that it could also be the SCR kat of a diesel bus is not considered. If that were so dangerous, then it would be in Shenzhen (over 16.300 buses, several thousand electric taxes) burn every day! How do they do that? Maybe it’s initial difficulties, the technology is still young. I agree to it has to be looked closely at what happened, from me also the KBA, and then be improved. Guys, we don’t turn the clock back! Gowd got used to it, burners are outdated harmful technology from the last century
Burn in Shenzhen buses
Just because in DE she does not read in the press whether and when a vehicle is burning in China, this means nothing for a long time. You are bending a very simple structure of thinking, typical of this topic. Combined can ever achieve much more than an electric car, durability, sustainability and environmental friendliness with sensible fuels. Inform yourself!
The cause is now known in the ministry.
What are the consequences of? At least the Stuttgart pollutant balance is updated? Even the most ideology-covered e-disciples should be clear after the third or even fourth custodian in 2021 how dangerous the batteries are. The battery fire is a danger to life and life. It can arise spontaneously at any time and without any prior notice. This point excludes this technology for use in road traffic. Not just for buses. Before the batteries are not proven to be sure, the operating license should be withdrawn. Or has to burn a fully occupied bus in the middle of the city? How quickly this can be seen on the video, there is no escape.
Speculation about electrical buses as the cause!
Exactly, speculations and nothing else. The cause of the fire was never an electric bus, and if so, we will never find out. Where is that actually "Supreme fire expert", the pension official on this topic?
how come? It burned somewhere?
The batteries would be indispensable, the raw materials grow sustainably on colorful trees, keep 100% efficiency and (despite eternal life) can be recycled and completely recycled. Too fertilizer, for new batteries. Everything else is fake news. So it sounds out of the corner, prayer mill. The laws of physics and foundations of chemistry do not apply to those too complex. 🙂
To forget
So far there have been 4 depot fires. Dear Site, also in Nuremberg, a bus depot in which electric buses were also parked is burned out. How much bus depot fires there was in Germany before 2020? That would be interesting to know, but I don’t think it was 4 fires in 10 months.