Fraunhofer expert puts H2 Ad Acta: “Time window is almost closed”

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Fraunhofer expert puts hydrogen Ad Acta: "Time window is almost closed"

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Hydrogen will no longer be a relevant alternative for private transport: a researcher at the Fraunhofer Institute is convinced of this. In addition to hydrogen cars, the expert also places H2 for trucks Ad Acta.

At the end of January, a study overview by the scientist DR in the Science Journal Nature Electronics. Patrick PlOtz from the Fraunhofer Institute for System and Innovation Research ISI published as a comment. In his explanations, PlOtz explains that it is too late to give hydrogen an important role in sustainable road traffic.

"Hydrogen will play an important role in industry, shipping and synthetic flight fuels. However, we cannot wait for hydrogen technology in road traffic, but should now concentrate on battery-electric vehicles in passenger and freight traffic", So Dr. PlOtz, which works at the Fraunhofer Institute for System and Innovation Research (ISI) as head of the Energiewirtschaft business area. "The time window for hydrogen cars to achieve a relevant market share is almost closed."

350 battery-electric models, only two hydrogen cars

In the comment, PlOtz indicates, among other things, that around 25 in early 2021.000 hydrogen fuel cell cars were on the road and currently only two standard fuel cell cars are offered for sale: the Toyota Mirai and the Hyundai Nexo. In addition, only around 540 hydrogen filling stations are in operation worldwide – this contrasts PlOtz that "At the beginning of 2022, around 15 million battery-electric vehicles and plug-in hybrid vehicles are on the roads of the world" be. In addition, now offer "Almost all manufacturers" Corresponding purely battery -electric vehicles, around 350 different models worldwide.

According to PlOtz, the latest technological developments in battery technology would have made the main arguments for fuel cell vehicles: their allegedly greater reach and their shorter refueling times. "When battery -electric vehicles had a limited range of less than 150 km and charging a few hours, there was an important and large market segment for fuel cell vehicles: long -distance traffic", so root. "Today battery-electric vehicles offer about 400 km of realistic range, and the latest generation uses 800 V batteries that can be charged for a range of 200 km in about 15 minutes."

It should also be too late for fuel cell trucks

PlOtz argues that these technological developments have led to the fact that battery-electric vehicles are now considered most promising in the truck sector. So around 30 are now worldwide.000 battery -electric trucks in operation, most of them in China. Fuel cell trucks would therefore only be driven in test mode, and they are not yet commercially available.

According to PlOtz, the current challenge for battery -electric vehicles is still the logistical long -distance operation and the transport of very heavy goods. "This is the frequently discussed application for hydrogen trucks. Several truck manufacturers as well as fuel cell and infrastructure providers have teamed up and set the goal, until 2030 100.000 fuel cell trucks on European roads. However, this seems very unlikely when you consider that companies announce the earliest start date for the production of commercial series fuel cell trucks for 2027. At this point, the second generation’s battery -electric vehicles will already be commercially available and be in use."

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14 thoughts on “Fraunhofer expert puts H2 Ad Acta: “Time window is almost closed””

  1. Hydrogen is out…
    … Anyone who still believes in hydrogen -powered cars today also believe in the retired ones … Santa Claus. The battery-electric car is the future of individual mobility. This has been scientifically proven by studies and also by the local e-mobility experts here in the blog. Both "Burner friends" or "Homo burning" these facts just don’t seem to arrive. With its unbeatable efficiency, battery technology is the future in mobility and energy storage, in the truest sense of the word the mail goes off, because battery is mobilizing, at work, sport and game…

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  2. How often still?
    Wanted to drive cars with hydrogen is & remains a wooden path. What the Fraunhofer expert represents here is the knowledge that every reasonable person comes to, who deals scientifically with the matter. H2 is a detour that does nothing in cars, not technically, not economically, not for climate protection. There is no shorter & more efficient path than electricity from renewable energies to load into an auto battery & off the mail. To produce hydrogen with the valuable green electricity, in order to then use it directly in combustion engines or to make it in a fuel cell or out of it, is pure energy waste up to a factor of 7! Hydrogen in industry, shipping & synthetic flight fuels yes, in road traffic no.

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  3. @Sochgen
    You have to understand the connections if you want it! Ecostrome is z.Z. Not storable, it is given away or wind turbines are parked because there is no electricity requirement! If you had the corresponding H2 production, you could save H2. This requires electricity from BEV, while often there is no green electricity production. If most electric cars hang on the charging cables, there is usually no solar power and if you are unlucky, no wind blows! Only electricity that is available on demand has a chance to guarantee mobility! Since you get out of nuclear power and coal current and green electricity is unreliable, there is a lack of electricity. Incidentally, experts say that in 2030 up to 184TWH of electricity will be missing if the green electricity does not add!

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  4. @Sochgen
    How often still??? Your tiny house batteries are not interested in anyone! This is about green electricity in TWH size, the Z.T. "destroyed" becomes because wind turbines are parked because there is no need. Or abroad takes him. When does a Mr. Sochgen understand that storage options must hold step as a step into the green electricity expansion? Probably never!

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  5. "Whose bread I eat, whose song I sing"
    The institute is financed by 30% by the state and 70% by the clients ! This means that there is no independence and depending on how the specifications are, "research" can be "researched" in different directions !? This is also the case with opinion polls, depending on how the question is formulated, the answer also fails accordingly. VW is despite his statement: only electric vehicles in the future ! Nevertheless, "secretly" continued with hydrogen and other energy sources on research. In any case, a mix would be safer than just a way to use that would bring everything to a standstill if an energy supplier fails. As long as the infrastructure for charging or refueling is not available, all wishful thinking and other EU countries other infrastructures !

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  6. Experts |!!!!
    They think they have wisdom…!! Not enough green electricity? But install 115kWH batteries in the BMW, which with the electricity mix never has the chance to drive more ecological than a diesel. Giant batteries for the long distance, where no private PV system is waiting to charge the Monsterakku. Yes what now, ban diesel, but produce giant batteries that are worse for the climate for this? If you have some "Experts |" There is never enough green electricity in the forum and then batteries are to be produced that will never achieve the green branch of ecological correctness! Strange thoughts that go through some heads!

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  7. @Vogel – relationships
    This is not entirely clear to me with thought. They claim that there are so much excess green electricity that one could certainly afford it extremely losses (factor 4!) to waste in FCEV, but on the other hand there is not enough green electricity to reach a electricity mix that can defeat the diesel on average of all driving types. Yes what now?

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  8. Now hand on heart
    What do you think what will happen in the next 10 years? We are expanding 10 times as much PV and WKA at once and then creating hydrogen from the current with losses that is used in car? We will not even be able to create so much h in the next 10 years to operate our steel industry CO2-free. Or is it perhaps more realistic that the expansion can only be increased about 1-3 times, but this is sufficient to gradually elect our vehicle stock, the cars can even contribute to the network stability. I predict that towards the end of 2023 we are already new registrations at 40-50% BEV and that in D, the Norwegians are already 90%. The S-curve can no longer be stopped, hydrogen never had a real chance in the car.

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  9. @Vogel – Again is distracted
    What influence does the promotion of NEV (BEV or. FCEV) vehicles on the meaningfulness of BEV VS. FCEV? But all arguments per FCEV are crumbling away and now is distracted by the topic again. A pattern to be recognized again and again in your contributions. Just admit that you were wrong and learn. But not everyone can do that…

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  10. The scientists say
    The inexpensive always prevails. Since the hydrogen is 3 times as expensive, it won’t work. Small notes who likes hydrogen car can already be bought today. If you don’t need a trunk because there is the fuel cell system. From the driving experience just like an electric car, only with a poor efficiency.

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  11. That should have tax reasons.
    If everyone could produce the fuel for the car with their solar power- by the way- that is possible- then the state would avoid money (taxes, taxes and as is still called). And he would have a reasonable range in the H2 combustion engineer.

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  12. Wrong, hydrogen also for heating
    Electricity from renewable energy sources is not even realizable in Germany due to the climate. All these bought anti -hydrogen experts are troyan horses of the now governing ideologues. This government -compliant battery battery fed from French nuclear power plant electricity and Eastern European cabbage current. Hydrogen network expansion for supplying all households with decentralized fuel cells for heating and power supply would be an as clever and environmentally promoting move. The ideologically blinded idols of the solar/wind/battery tax money destruction machinery do not want to hear, see and say anything.

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  13. Precisely because
    If it were a complete nonsense to waste the very rare green hydrogen in FCEV. It is needed elsewhere. You have listed some applications. There are far better solutions only for mobility. That’s what it’s about here!

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  14. Correct technology and correct use
    This is only about using hydrogen in cars. If that doesn’t get through, it has no sense. To build the infrastructure, transport etc. That probably doesn’t pay off. And all of this just so that you are finished at the petrol station for a few minutes faster than the electric neighbor? There is a lot of application areas for hydrogen, if only as an energy storage of the future for wind power etc. Nobody has never put a thick diesel engine in the basement to operate the heating … just doesn’t fit!

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