Future talk: Will India be the Mecca for petrolheads in the future?


Do we have to fear the greens like polar bears fear climate change??

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According to Donald Trump, climate change is just an invention, a conspiracy theory. But we are already seeing the finiteness of resources

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Four petrolheads and a difficult task: “Welt” editor-in-chief Ulf Poschardt put a lot of questions and put them all in one envelope. He now wants to have them answered as competently as possible. Part 1.

Will our car nonsense soon be over? Do we have to fear the Greens and their stirrup holders like polar bears fear climate change? Are we the last of our kind?

Jochen Wagner: We are not the last of our kind. I would say we are the first to feel guilty.There are already China and India, and then come the emerging countries, they make it euphoric.

Peter Ruch: But they don’t have the money.

Carsten Muller: Although, things are just starting in India. However, there are regulatory difficulties in India because it is simply forbidden to import used vehicles there. They don’t make any difference.

But there are people in India who you put a sheet of metal on the floor and give them a hammer and say we need the following fender to be copied. And then they can do it. And of course that may also be an economic factor in the future. There you can actually reproduce a shape very well, with processing steps and in a way that was built in Europe 80 years ago. I find that really exciting.

Guido Bellberg: So India as a Mecca for petrolheads in the future? I don’t think that’s bad. And in Germany? The fear is always that young people are generally no longer interested in the topics of cars and mobility.

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The experts (from top left clockwise): the Swiss motor journalist Peter Ruch, the member of the Bundestag Carsten Muller, the "PS WORLD"-Author Guido Bellberg and the Pfarrer and philosopher Jochen Wagner

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Wagner: The race disembodied-digital. There are still those who tweak the moped. But it’s a minority.

Ruch: In my opinion, it’s mainly a money problem. Because in the past you could buy any Kadett B for 300 marks, then you and your colleagues could do something on it yourself, and somehow at 1000 marks it was finished and funny.

Today that is no longer possible, there are 14 million control units, and nobody can repair them any more. And young people cannot afford a new car. The auto industry, in my opinion, is killing itself by complicating this shit so incredibly that you can’t do anything yourself. A frosted PC does not need any mechanical competence.

Muller: Whereby, if you go through junkyards today, the cars that are standing around are not vehicles that are completely at the end. But those that are simply put down that you no longer want. Actually they are all still driving, whereas 25 years ago the boxes were ridden so long that there was really nothing left to weld.

This no longer exists in junkyards today. So I would say, all this control unit nonsense or not, there are vehicles in the junkyard today that drive off immediately. If you want to buy a car and have 300 euros in your bag, you can get it today on Ebay or on Mobile.de something that has another year of MOT.

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Many cars in junkyards are not finished, they have just been parked

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Ruch: But it’s a shame – the young people in Switzerland, I don’t know if it’s the same in Germany, and football is now an exception, but no more pig goes into gymnastics clubs or athletics clubs these days. Because the ways you can spend your free time today are so different.

In the past, when you didn’t want to read a book, you were either bored or you did sport. Today you just sit in front of these weird square devices and then you’ll be fine again. I have the feeling that the guys no longer meet to work on the cadet, but instead look on the tablet to see how others are screwing.

Muller: There are clever people who do a survey like this every year, attitudes towards classic vehicles and so on, who say that we definitely have a trend towards classic vehicles. 388,000 H license plates in the car sector. Some say there is a glut of classic cars, we have to do something about that, I think that’s nonsense.

The increase does not exist in vehicles that are now working from 29 to 30 years, but there is an increase in vehicles between around 1965 and 1975. It’s amazing what’s going on at the moment, where they come from . And, for the second time in a row: 53 percent of road users say I’m happy when I see a classic vehicle. There are also some who say, “I think that’s totally stupid”, but that’s true for all questions.

But the overwhelming majority who say, I’m happy, and if you ask me what your feelings are when you see a Renault in traffic, then I say: none at all. Because I probably don’t even notice it. To be happy is already a word. And I think that’s a very good sign.

Ruch: Well, what you are saying now, I would also sign. But it’s a question of money. And there are more people today who have money.

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Pretty innovative: the Model X from Tesla has five USB ports on the back alone


Muller: I think that’s another topic that annoys me a bit. If you are interested in classic vehicles or classic mobility, nobody will be chased away. But on the contrary. It’s a relatively open, classless society, and I find that exciting, and when someone comes with a Jetta 1 and stands next to someone with a 911 has or a Miura, then he is looked at anything but oblique.

Wagner: So the subject is “emancipatory sensuality”. And with us in the network, these were football, electric guitar, moped or Golf GTI – in other words, analog poetics of the moment. Where you differentiated yourself with Papa’s antibodies against Papa and Mama. Dodging, hairdressing, tuning and so on. These are all body assisted practices. It’s a little different now with the kids. They just do it with surfboards, the web, selfie machines and so on. So rather immaterial. But only with us.

Muller: So in Germany? In the developed industrial countries?

Wagner: Yes, because everything else is already there. And where capitalism is still in its infancy, they are still doing our own development.

Muller: It still works traditionally, so to speak.

Wagner: It still has the same euphoric happiness feeling, out of the "Oarschkerben" is what they say in Franconian, that is, out of the lowest level of immobility. And if everyone does that, then there will be a crash. We’ll be the first to feel the wall. Due to the scarcity of resources. It’s been an invention since Trump, in other words, a conspiracy theory, but we can already see the finiteness of resources.

Bellberg: I’m much more banal, what I ask is which cars do ten-year-olds, twelve-year-olds like? So I can tell that all the cars that now have ambient lighting and sparkling door sills are going down very well with all this nonsense that we find terrible. Then comes the sound. So when I drive a V8, all children think it’s great.

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It’s nice when cars still have a special sound. A wonderful current example: the Ford Mustang with 421 hp and a 5.0-liter V8 engine

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Muller: And that is exactly a problem with e-mobility.

Bellberg: And digitization is popular. The first thing my son asks is: “Does this car have WiFi?” If so, that is sound plus light plus digital frippery, then this is a great car.

Ruch: Tesla’s Model X has five rear USB ports.

Bellberg: And that’s why it’s the best car.

Wagner: But what will most certainly be the case with us is that consumer mobility will slow down in the private sector. Certainly not in heavy traffic. Neither in freight transport. But in private life the joy of use will decrease, and the joy of enjoyment, we will see what we can save ourselves.

I make everything public in the greater Munich area that is only public. But in rural areas I can’t exist at all without a car. Just the ecological balance of a D-youth game from TSV Tutzing, you get a bird because you know that three million people who play football have an away game every weekend.

Muller: Basically, football should be banned for environmental reasons.

Ruch: Only the away games are banned.

Wagner: We now have syndicates because the small villages are experiencing structural decline, so that teams no longer form. So you make syndicates out of three to five towns. And then you train in winter in the largest gym, which is the furthest away. And then four villages come and their kids drive 17 kilometers to two-hour indoor soccer training. Helicopter soccer ball.

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8 thoughts on “Future talk: Will India be the Mecca for petrolheads in the future?”

  1. Yes. The Greens want commuters to cycle to work on icy roads because they had abolished cars beforehand, switched off conventional power stations too quickly and the wind turbines and solar systems cannot produce enough electricity in winter. People who live in the country and have 50 km to work before they get to work will be frozen and exhausted because the synthetic veggie food does not provide them with enough nutrients to survive the working day, silently making the way back home.

  2. The polar bears will adapt. The number of mixed bear cubes consisting of polar and grizzly bears etc. is already increasing. But one can be afraid of the greens. Nightmare on Bundestag hits it pretty well.

  3. So if you look at the population of polar bears, then clearly no! We don’t have to be afraid.
    The WWF correctly puts the number of polar bears at around 25,000. What the organization unfortunately does not reveal to the reader is that the global polar bear population in the 1960s was only about 5000 animals. In addition, recent censuses in parts of the Canadian Hudson Bay from the beginning of 2012 showed that the polar bear population here is probably two-thirds higher than previously assumed. The local authorities confirmed that the much-vaunted polar bear existence crisis does not exist. The warming of the past 50 years does not seem to have caused much of a problem for the polar bear.
    Shotguns are the polar bears’ greatest enemies, not heat!

  4. No, there is no need to fear this party. The greens will develop downwards in the future. More and more people are rising up against the animal and nature destruction demanded by the Greens through wind turbines, against the unlimited influx and the associated exploitation of our social systems and the crime fueled by their politics. The old, genuine Greens from back then have long since left the party.

  5. Nobody really has to fear a 10% – if it comes up – party. It is only enough to be afraid if they join forces with other left-wing parties and everyone can enforce their own dogmas …. See Berlin…

  6. Fear the Greens? clear answer: no !
    Incidentally, I do not share the opinion that this party still gets 10% – the "to fly" soon out of some state parliaments !

  7. Short answer: Yes

    Incidentally, even the polar bears have to fear the greens, because their affection is like love among spiders, as a male you are usually eaten up.

    Presumably the Greens only let polar bears survive so that equality finally prevails on the floe.

  8. Good point. The basic problem of the Greens is that they are unable or unwilling to see connections. One looks in vain for logical thinking in them. In order to protect the environment, one would gradually have to tackle the difficult issue of overpopulation (from the point of view of the PC); if people continue to reproduce so unrestrainedly, there will be no more space for polar bears, trees and rivers (to put it bluntly). The Greens would like a lot of space and resources for everyone, so that it stays nice and peaceful, as well as space for wind turbines and uneven rivers, for nature reserves, meadows and rainforests, for polar bears and orangutans. They just overlook the fact that space and resources are limited – they CAN’T even see them, because borders do not exist in their worldview for ideological reasons.


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