Industrial associations demand more differentiated, global consideration of hydrogen and e-fuels

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Industrial associations demand more differentiated, global consideration of hydrogen and e-fuels-industrial

Germany is intended to build a globally leading hydrogen industry, in which hydrogen and hydrogen-based fuels should play a crucial role. However, this objective is seriously endangered by a current law plan of the Federal Environment Ministry (BMU), according to the German Hydrogen and Fuel Cell Association (DWV), the Mineral Oil Administration Association (MWV), the Association of Automotive Industry (VDA) and the Association of German Mechanical Engineering (VDMA ) In a joint communication.

According to the four major industrial associations, the leader design leads to the national implementation of the European Renewable Energy Directive (RED II), in which the EU defines the minimum quantities of renewable energies for the transport sector, in the wrong direction and should therefore be stopped. Against the background of a hearing on the topic of hydrogen in the German Bundestag, the four associations, the drafts of the speakers, require the consideration of all sorts of options and a recognition of the climate goals 2030, forward-looking and to be re-entered into the association hearing and resorting.

The legislative proposal does not provide the framework conditions for the market hood of a German hydrogen industry, nor do he lead to additional CO2 savings in traffic. Thus, the draft factually ignores the national hydrogen strategy in which the Federal Government specifies ambitious goals under the Red II implementation. Only with an ambitious implementation of the renewable energy directive and using synthetic fuels is a way of transport and achieving EU climate goals by 2030. And in the existing vehicle fleet with internal combustion engines can only be achieved with the use of so-called e-fuels a fast-effective CO2 reduction. According to a recent study, among other things, on behalf of the MWV, vehicles with internal combustion engine, which are driven with climate-neutral eco-electricity fuels, a similarly good energy balance balance sheet on such as battery-powered vehicles. Something later.

The associations also fear that the Ministry of the Environment with its draft hundreds of thousands of jobs also endanger as the planned construction of a hydrogen industry. In the case of a revision, in addition to the climate targets, the requirements of the involved industries as well as the sustainable development of the German economy would have to be considered in addition to the climates as well as the sustainable development of the German economy. The writing of the associations was sent to the Federal Chancellery, numerous federal and state ministries, deputies and members of the National Hydrogen Council.

“The German automotive industry wants to reach the Kiima protection goals and EU CO2 fleet goals of the EU. We are ready and want to bring the necessary decisions on the street. Even today, customers can choose from 70 E vehicles of German manufacturers. By the end of 2023 it will be more than 150, which is a rapid development and has a strong priority. At the same time we work on the market maturity for e-fuels and hydrogen. Also the modern internal combustion engine has a future. We need e-fuels and hydrogen from sustainable energy sources to achieve the climate goals even with the million cars in stock. And there will also be new, economical cars and trucks with internal combustion engine. Therefore, the research and development of climate-friendly drives with synthetic fuels and hydrogen is essential. If we want to achieve the climate goals, there is no alternative to this double strategy.”- Hildegard Muller, President VDA

Study: Hardly efficiency difference between battery electrical drives and current-based fuels

Vehicles with internal combustion engine, which are driven with climate-neutral fuels on an eco-electricity, are intended to have a similar good energy balance sheet, such as battery-powered vehicles, such as the study of the efficiency concept in the climatic debate on the road traffic “of the consulting firm Frontier Economics on behalf of the associations MWV and Uniti gauge. Basis of this revaluation is a compatible efficiency comparison.

The efficiency of direct use of green electricity in battery electrical cars generated in previous conventional analyzes in battery electrical cars of around 70 percent shrink in the holistic analysis of Frontier Economics on meager 13 to 16 percent. It is thus in a comparable magnitude with vehicles operated with internal combustion engine and renewable fuels. Their overall efficiency amounts to 10 to 13 percent depending on the scenario.

Industrial associations demand more differentiated, global consideration of hydrogen and e-fuels-industrial

This revaluation is that in conventional analyzes the differences in the income from solar or wind facilities depending on the location are completely hidden. In other words, a solar system at an average location in Germany generate only about 40 percent of the amount of electricity per year, which produce a comparable facility in North Africa. This higher power yield per system can be used via the import of hydrogen or synthetic fuels to Germany in road traffic. For battery electrical vehicles, on the other hand, it is largely dependent on renewable electricity generation in Germany.

Previous analyzes for the efficiency comparison of electromobility and renewable fuels should also often be disregarded other important energy-economic aspects, as out of the Frontier Study:

  • E cars have to be loaded even if the sun does not seem and the wind does not blush. In a 100 percent renewable electricity system, a certain proportion of the current for battery electric vehicles would therefore also have to be provided via the detour of the caching over hydrogen, which is then converted into electricity plants in gas power plants,.
  • In addition, often not considered that vehicles need energy for cooling and especially for heating the interior.

Demand for eco-electric systems only insignificantly higher than in electromobility

Particularly vividly the result of the study, if one compares how many wind and solar systems need to be built to operate the energy requirement of a domestic car with average annual mileage: the operation with renewable fuels requires mathematically a solar capacity of 6 kilowatts in North Africa, one Electric car with 5.7 kilowatts Almost as much photovoltaic performance in Germany. For wind streams, 3 kilowatts in Argentina (Patagonia) or 2.3 kilowatts in Germany must be installed for a car with green fuels or 2.3 kilowatts. That is, hardly any more renewable power generation plants for the mobility variant of the vehicle with internal combustion engine would have to be built compared to the battery vehicle, but to other, profitable locations.

In addition, 100 percent green electricity is available in Germany and that the availability of areas with high green electricity potential and low population density in regions such as North Africa or South America is significantly higher than in this country, but the cost of land and acceptance hurdles are lower.

“Current currently covers a good 20 percent of the German endurance requirement. Wind and photovoltaic systems carry approx. 6 percent for demand cover. In all necessary expansion of these generation plants in Germany, it will not be possible in the long term to get out without substantial energy imports. So that these are then renewable, the course must now be set. Dependence on energy imports and the balanced technical efficiency of renewable fuels and electromobility in this study illustrate that a definition alone on the battery-electric variant in road traffic would be a great mistake at the present time.”- Prof. Christian Kuchen, Chief Managing Director MWV

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9 thoughts on “Industrial associations demand more differentiated, global consideration of hydrogen and e-fuels”

  1. > And there will also be new, economical cars and trucks with internal combustion engine. <
    This is the declared goal of this association – clinging to burners, on Teufdl come out !!

  2. Always calm, of course, I not only listen to myself but also people with conspiracy theories. So far, I do not find a single answer to the fact that it can not go without diesel engines to drive battery mobile. To read something? “Soon the internal combustion engine – and what are the alternatives?
    First countries and states want to ban 2035 vehicles with internal combustion engine. What does that mean? And is e-mobility really the best alternative?” in
    https: // picture.DE / Article / Approval Boys-Fuer-BIS-2035-18490219.HTML
    Then someone writes from tractors with batteries that there are already. Of course, such a tractor in buildings such as stable makes sense, but please do not work for heavy work outside in the pampa. There must be z.B. During the harvest time, the things run almost around the clock or the rain is waiting until the battery is full? Or writes here anyone who has no idea of agricultural work?

  3. Well, this article is probably a shuffle of managers who just notice how quickly your business model breaks away.

    I think it’s interesting as you count on nothing more than one hundred thousand approved E-cars this year. Because with E-Fuels there is nothing. No production facility except laboratory operation, no hydrogen from EE and not enough EE electricity for production. In Africa there is also nothing except for an idea without concept.

    This is not worth the hard disk on which this article was saved.

    I hope that the government has no time to make a decision until election. After that, the Greens are certainly in the government, but Mr. Altmaier and Mr. Scheuer gone and then there will be nothing more.

  4. These are the “mask denizers” of the industry. They have not recognized the seriousness of the situation yet. The mineral oil association should be seen that he is looking for a new pillar. Otherwise, all the same fate like Kodak, Nokia and Co.
    Like the toddlers “not true! Our stuff is much great and better!”
    Even if burns and electric cars were oven: electric cars are quiet, electric cars stink and e-cars drive a lot more pleasant. And: I do not have to produce the electricity for my vehicle in any conflicted land, but can refuel the “roof” or get the corner from the wind turbine.


  5. To the tractors – here only electrical attachments for tractors will come, pure battery tractors should come later in larger quantities.

    Problem with tractors is less the weight of the battery, many tractors need additional weights anyway, so that the front wheels have enough soil liability when a heavy attachment is attached to the back and tractors need a high weight of a high weight, otherwise the field is plowed, otherwise the Wheels through.

    For tractors I could imagine exchange batteries. Where now the diesel engine is sitting, there is the heavy change battery. The farmer drives into the Great Garage, unlocks the battery and removes it by electric pulley, sets it right and takes the loaded 2 from the left. Battery, inserts it and puts the empty battery to the charging station. Then he drives again on the field and if this battery is empty, then the other battery is already full again and the interplay is repeated.

    The problems can be easily solved than it is the paid and unpaid skeptics. Also pure battery ferries are no problems, because instead of diesel engine, great diesel tank and plenty of ballast water, so that the ship is well in the water, there is a heavy battery – so does not the ship will not be sinking.

  6. Says, you have math and physics in Germany, or come everyone with praying, singing and gymnastics to graduate … and then starts in a bandage .. ?
    Headshakes greetings from the neighboring country in the south … the + in the flag … not with the “-“.

  7. For electric vehicles you always have to take into account the pure driving performance So an electric engine has a lot of strength more than a diesel now one should take into account that a tractor does not cover many kilometers and everything else is peanuts for a 120 kW battery, that’s what we are in the beginning In five years, each industry will offer manufacturers offer tractors with enough performance ..
    What I think about this whole thing is funny if you consider what I need for hydrogen, synthetic fuel and organic fuel … water … where do you get so much water in the appropriate amount? We are talking about millions of liters in good quality Nothing brackish water … and best in Africa where hardly reasonable water is ..

  8. Water is probably no problem with hydrogen or synthetic fuel, if necessary, the manufacturers must collect and filter with flood (relieving the rivers), if it should be scarce, because flooding or. Monsoon rain is almost everywhere in the world in large quantities – more than man likes.

    And in biofuels, this material is used ..

    “Starting materials of biofuels are renewable raw materials such as oil plants, cereals, sugar beet or tube, forest and residual wood, wood from high-speed plants, special energy crops and animal waste.”(Source: Wikipedia)

    The problem with hydrogen or synthetic fuels is that they are expensive if the current needs to be paid and more kWh are needed to power than when the power is stored directly in batteries – hydrogen or synthetic fuels are a costly and unnecessary detour.

    The problem with biofuels is that they – when manufactured in large quantities – the environment is harmed and in competition to food production ..

    “Agroindustrial cultivation requires large amounts of fossil fuel and nitrogen fertilizer, which worsens the climate balance; … when rainforest surfaces are decorated or peatmoors dry to open up space for the cultivation of energy crops, the climate balance deteriorates clearly.”(Source: Wikipedia)

    The solution for vehicle traffic is very simple:

    Electricity should be recovered with wind power and solar systems, buffered in batteries and from there directly in electric cars of electric cars, trucks, etc. be used.

    Everything else are expansive detours that only want the mineral oil lobby and the companies behind it to make big profits with more ordinary technology and lots of resource consumption – and with each technical change (burner to plugin hybrid to hydrogen to E-Fuels to .. ?) New sales and profits are made.

    This should be explained enough – and who still does not understand it, who probably does never understand it.


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