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New electrical study under the magnifying glass: How Stromer are beautifully calculated

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ICCT study 2021: New electrical study in the check-how the Stromer are beautifully calculated!

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The advisory organization ICCT covered the diesel scandal, but has also propagated electromobility for years. A current study clearly sees e-cars in the environmental advantage. Site viewed the statements.

For links on this page, Site receives. A commission from the dealer, Z.B. For marked. More information the electrical shaft rolls: In Germany there were significantly more new registrations in purely battery-operated electric vehicles (+358%) in the second quarter of 2021 and for plug-in hybrids (+270%). The high purchase premiums and tax advantages are likely to be a major reason for this. The importance of e-cars is also increasing internationally, especially for German manufacturers. According to the data from the PWC consulting company, every second plug-in hybrid sold worldwide and every sixth-sold Stromer comes from a German car manufacturer.Behind the hand, many car managers admit that the electric cars are getting better and better, but the pure electrical strategy in Europe is essentially due to the requirements of politics. This is based primarily on a controversial point: the claim that e-mobility is the only way to make traffic free of fossil fuels. This way of thinking is reflected in the EU practice controversial among experts, to set the emissions of electric cars with zero – no matter how the batteries or the electricity necessary for charging are obtained daily.

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The scientific foundations for this regularly provide associations and organizations that advise politics and have a major influence in Brussels, especially in Brussels. Now the International Council on Clean Transportation (ICCT) has presented a much-noticed study that is intended to prove that only with electric cars with electricity from renewable energy can the so-called 1.5 degree goal of the current EU. A burner ban 2035 is therefore required.

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The ICCT has uncovered the diesel scandal at Volkswagen and is considered to be an independent consumer organization, which, among other things, provides data for authorities and was also involved in the conception of the new WLTP consumption cycle. In the EU, the ICCT is supported by the Mercator Foundation and climate protection organizations, which expressly recommend e-mobility.The ICCT is not a really independent instance on the subject. This is already evident in a significant weak point of the study: the narrowing to the comparison of the electric car and fuel cell drive on the one hand and the combustion engine on the other hand. Synthetic fuels are not even mentioned, organic sprit is dismissed as not very efficient.

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CO2 numbers too optimistic forecast?

For Site has Prof. Dr. Alexander Eisenkopf, Economic and Transport expert from the Zeppelin University Friedrichshafen evaluated the ICCT study and considers it not very meaningful in many points.Eisenkopf notes that the advantages of the electric car determined by the ICCT in the case of the CO2 balance sheet itself the information on a brochure of the Federal Environmental Office far. While the ICCT speaks of almost 70 percent savings of greenhouse gases, the BMU assumes a reduction of 30 percent (petrol engine) and 23 percent (diesel). In addition, the forecast set up by the ICCT by 2050 mountains considerable risks in the accuracy of the calculations.

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The actual emissions of an electric car depend on the electricity mix in the respective country and not on the average emissions of the whole EU. Numerous scientists recently criticized the approach of the CO2 costs of the electricity with this average value calculations. Estimates by the international energy agency are based on the entire life cycle for an electric car in France of 35 grams of CO2 per km. In Germany, on the other hand, according to their assumptions, there are 303 grams. Europe -wide then 199 becomes 199. Still much more than forecasting the ICCT.

Consumption improvements are ignored

In addition, the ICCT ignores technical progress in combustion engines, which is said to consume 7.1 liters as a petrol engine in 2030. 5.9 liters are accepted as diesel. Prof. Thomas Koch from the Karlsruhe Institute of Technology, expert in combustion engines, on the other hand, calculates around 3 liters with a consumption reduction. “Without them, however, the tightening of the Euro 7 standard planned by the EU Commission can hardly be reached.""The currently valid lowering of the fleet limit values by 37.5% by 2030 is simply achieved by the manufacturers by a higher odds of BEVS and plug-in hybrids. This also exposes the regime of fleet limit values as what it actually is: a quota control for electric vehicles, ”says Alexander Eisenkopf.

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China, the largest CO2 slingshot of the planet

According to the ICCT forecasts, the climate balance of combustion engines in the United States, China and India should clearly improve. It is true that these countries also want to reduce their CO2 emissions and, for example. Only the coal exit in these countries is still a long way off. "For 600 new coal-fired power plants, the Asian governments of China, India, Indonesia, Japan and Vietnam want to raise $ 150 billion," reports the well-known environmental blog chanthinking. When – and whether at all – the battery car in the largest emissions in the world, that is, China, becomes "cleaner" than an economical petrol engine, nobody can say.

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The pure numbers of the ICCT study are also contradictory. For 2021 battery vehicles approved, the study specifies 76-83 grams of CO2 emissions, in 2030 it should be 56-73 grams. In the small print of the study there is then average for Germany of 107 grams. This reduces the advantage over the combustion engine from claimed 77 to 57 percent.

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“57 percent would still be a veritable savings if one believes all assumptions based. The central wound point of the study, however, is the assumption that electric vehicles in Germany refuel the average current and that it has fewer and fewer emissions, ”says Eisenkopf. In fact, every additional electric car increases the electricity requirement, which can then only be covered from conventional sources, which marginalized the alleged advantages.10 or 14 million electric cars, as planned by the federal government, cannot be invited when the sun is shining and the wind is blowing to produce the corresponding amounts of electricity that would otherwise have to be given away to neighboring countries or otherwise would have to be "folded down".In fact, these additional power consumers can initially only be loaded with the current of a controllable fossil power plant. Of course, the federal government also knows this – and therefore relies on a kind of miracle weapon for the now no longer reversible path of electrification: Hydrogen is intended to serve as an energy storage to save it somewhere during overproduction "green" electricity and to feed back into the network when underlap.

DIW assumes halved power consumption

It can be said: The ICCT study uses too many optimistic assumptions and at the same time leaves too many aspects-such as progress in combustion technology or CO2 reduction through synthetic fuels-in order to actually be the final argument for a pure electrical Course to serve as it is marketed.In addition: In the desired carbonized world in the federal government, not only the electric cars need a lot more electricity. The steel, chemical industry and the heat market should also be electrified with emission-free energies. There is a current forecast by the German Economic Research Institute (DIW) that makes you start -up. Because miraculously, the annual energy demand shown in the DIW weekly report is only 1209 Terrawatt hours (TWH). In 2018, the need was more than twice as high without this electrification, at 2589 Terrawatt hours. Without rationing and de -industrialization, this should hardly be possible. The fact that electric car drivers in particular have to adjust to this shows the discussion about reducing charging stream at private charging points.

Top smoothing or electricity rationing?

The draft law on the "top smoothing" was just withdrawn by Federal Minister of Economics Peter Altmaier in order not to disturb as a ticking time bomb in the election campaign, because the law provides nothing other than the possibility of temporarily removing the charging current for e-cars for network fluctuations. Theoretically, this “network-compatible store” also enables a source of income for e-car owners if they are almost used to buy back to your power operator from the battery. However, the federal government should have recognized that the "top smoothing" is better taught potential e-car owners and, above all, not before the Bundestag election.

Convention conventional power plants to hydrogen?

Alexander Eisenkopf sees the German self -sufficiency solution, which dispenses with imports of renewable energies (hydrogen, methane) from outside the continent, as unrealistic. “This leads to huge expansion goals for renewable (223 GW installed power for wind on land, 80 GW for wind offshore and 900 or. 226 GW for photovoltaics), ”says Eisenkopf. For German energy supply, this will then mean either to import electricity or not to consume it. "If the wind generation is low, the demand, if possible, is postponed and supported on the generation side by battery storage, hydrogen turbines and imports from neighboring countries," says the DIW.

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In contrast to most large industrialized countries, hydrogen as an energy storage facility is in Germany, because the actual "miracle weapon" that the green turn in industry, house electricity and cars must also bring in the real "miracle weapon". In fact, energy experts point out that even existing fossil power plants could be converted to hydrogen.The existing gas turbines, which feed the current into the network with the required frequency, are then operated with a mixture of natural gas and hydrogen (burned CO2-free), even 100 percent hydrogen use would be possible. Of course, all the subjunctive planning requires appropriate planning; At least one has to doubt their efficiency if you look at the relentless billing of the Federal Audit Office with the German Energy Wende .

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And if all of this does not work and the CO2 reduction is not achieved that Germany has prescribed its citizens? Then not everyone can drive anymore who wants to. The President of the Federal Environmental Office, Dirk Messner, recently said in the "Handelsblatt" interview: At least a tripling and photovoltaics are needed with the wind energy on land and at least a doubling of the annual expansion. And: “In the traffic sector we have to electrify and reduce the number of automobiles." The Federal Environment Ministry also knows that the regenerative electricity is not sufficient for the dream dreams of the energy transition. In a brochure it states: “Electric vehicles cannot be the only strategy to meet the goals of climate and environmental protection in road traffic. A sustainable turnover of traffic only succeeds if the focus is also on avoidance and relocation."

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16 thoughts on “New electric car study in the check-as Stromer is beautifully calculated”

  1. What I notice here
    In 2030, gasoline vehicles are said to consume 7.1l/100km? My first car, year of construction … In 1975, less than 7l/100km was used up. My current needs about 7.6l/100km. Where is the progress? More efficient? More weight because more meaningless functionality? Both destroy the development in engine construction again. Building light and smaller cars and the average consumption should also be conceivable for the petrol engine today at less than 5l/100km. You don’t want fuel savings.

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  2. Green electric fuel and hydrogen
    I’ve been writing about this topic for a long time. We would make climate-neutral individual traffic the fastest if we rely on e-fuel from landfill waste, plastic and green hydrogen. This allows you to operate the old stock of the combustion engines in a climate -neutral manner. Hydrogen fuel cells E-cars are the solution for the future. This hydropac drive is a topic in the future novel sequencer. Overwall passenger aircraft also fly over the continents.

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  3. If you are ready
    To pay four to five euros per liter then please nice. The majority, except classic car drivers, is not. Therefore, their shown path is doomed to failure.

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  4. As long as
    E-cars in Germany have a similar CO2 emissions than conventional, economical vehicles as long as the currently built electric cars are not sustainable and have to be recycled as hazardous waste after about 10 years. and does not bring the environment. Today’s electric cars are not sustainable by the bank and not particularly environmentally friendly. In addition, simple technical properties such as standardized cordless change systems and also standardized batteries are missing, which an automated recycling z.B. First enable and, a new battery technique, should also make them usable for existing vehicles. The current e-mobility is nothing more than one "Calm of conscience". Not interesting.

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  5. @Sochgen
    You can be helped, of course only if there is understanding! Oh well! The car on the PV system is not interested in anyone, rather 9.6% green electricity on the network performance, e.g. 08.01.2021! Which means that at that time 90.4% electricity came from conventional production. An electric car which at that time taped electricity on a public charging station generated CO2 as well as other customers for electricity. The organic coat, which is always cited, is nothing more than a kind of self -fraud. Many people know and accept this fact, but other people do not give up to constantly create theses of the permanent environmental friendliness of e-cars that do not exist and is therefore untrue!

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  6. @Vogel – again for you
    Even if we had 100% coal stream in Germany, BEV would be much more efficient on the road with a combined efficiency of 28% (70% of 40% of coal -fired power plants) than the combustion fraction that has difficulties to achieve 20%. Every little electricity, the cabbage stream displaces this lead increases. But these are overall contexts that not everyone captures.

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  7. As long as…
    The energy requirement, i.e. electrical current, is not 100% covered by renewable energies, electric cars are also CO2 producers. It doesn’t use anything if the e-cart is loaded directly on the wind turbine because another consumer has to obtain conventionally generated electricity and this "Removal" must be taken into account as CO2 emissions. Everything else is lug and wore!

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  8. @Bender
    The break clown you address is located somewhere else. You prove this with each of your contributions. Explain how my sister’s BEV creates CO2 when you load it with her PV system, which she mainly bought for the BEV? It is even the case that additional electricity is fed in and thus makes the neighboring houses CO2-neutrum. Without BEV, the PV system would not exist!

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  9. The rising electricity requirement ..
    The article says: "In fact, every additional electric car increases the electricity requirement, which can then only be covered from conventional sources, which marginalized the alleged advantages." Strangely, an electric car does not need a gasoline/diesel. The amount of energy saved for its production must "expert" But credit the electric car. There is a lot of electricity to heat up the crude oil to fractionate it. And the ship with the crude oil does not drive with wind power. Let alone the tank claster that brings the fuel to the petrol station.

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  10. A gift from politics to the auto industry
    Here, too, it is worth taking a look behind the scenes: the beautiful calculation of the e-cars is simply a concession of politics to the German auto industry, so that the strict EU requirements are still being observed with the sale of many petrol engines, diesel and above all thirsty SUVs are with whom you still find the majority of the profits. This dyeing of the beauty serves less for the electric car than an extended life of the combustion engines, because with an honest calculation of the E-Auto CO2 balance sheet, much more would have to be sold than the industry can and would like to do that.

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  11. Site reported on the calculation error of the e-lobby
    How can the CO2 freedom "accepted" become if the overall package is anything but CO2 free and environmentally friendly? Electricity comes from the socket on the calculation basis, batteries grow on colorful trees, are harmless and are finally composted. The drive would have 100% efficiency etc. All assumptions that serve the calculation basis, but are far from any reality. Physical laws cannot be bent by the lobby are irrefutable, but how should people understand that do not go to school on Fridays? Learn the energy conservation set and the Newtonian axioms! Even expecting is better than looking for the accepted results in the Echo Cam. As an engineer, it runs off my back ice cold when I read their lectures.

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  12. @Cutter
    Oh no! There is probably no conventional generation of electricity that also depends on electric cars when it relates electricity from the electricity mix? Then there is probably no coal breakdown and transport for power plants, no operation of ergasium production and pipelines for power plants! I make the perfect world of electric cars as it fits into the world view! Efficiency of base load power plants that reach hardly 40%!

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  13. 2 errors were made in the article:
    1. It was done in such a way, i.e. whether fuel cells and e-fuel would be the same as equivalent alternatives to battery-operated e-mobility. This is not the case (at least for cars), since the necessary huge ecostring is not feasible and the production of e-fuel in huge quantities is not or at least not possible in a few years. 2. The departure from fossil energy must of course be accompanied by a rapid expansion of the solar and wind energy. Then the need for fossil electricity does not increase, which is used as a counter -argument in the article.

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  14. Their assumptions come from the e-echo chamber
    With reality they have little in common. Even if you repeat it again and again, it won’t be more real. As for battery cars, the basics of tax exemption and subsidies are "politically" Deferred assumptions that do not have any reality reference. Politicians tend to write off from submitted papers of the e-lobby. They can do that, no more, due to the lack of professional penetration.

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  15. Argumentation on a faulty basis
    The article makes a fundamental mistake in the beginning: The assumed reduction in the consumption of combustion engines is illusory and technically not to be underpinned. In order to comply with the future limit values, complex, expensive and space -intensive additional facilities would be necessary, which make implementation hardly profitable, because the technical optimization potential is only low. Especially with small vehicles that actually have to be particularly cheap, the cost stairs would be much steeper and there are hardly any scaling effects to be expected. Sticking to combustion would make the further development of small affordable cars unprofitable, which means an unacceptable restriction for a mass market. In the case of BEVS, however, the costs will decrease

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  16. No CO2
    The 0G regulation is a technically justified decision that takes into account that the electric vehicles themselves do not emit CO2 emissions. The CO2 is expelled by the fossil power plants, here the criticism must start. Statistically speaking, the electric car cannot choose the electricity mix, which is given by the external circumstances.

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