- Production of hydrogen will play a crucial role in the future
- Hydrogen offers the possibility of storing regenerative energy
- Toyota continues to pioneer fuel cell technology
The fact that Toyota currently sees no demand for e-cars was discussed more than extensively on our portal. In conversation with autoweek.com gave Toyota chefingenieur Yoshikau Tanaka a few details about the fuel cell philosophy of Toyota Price and reveals why Toyota believes that hydrogen cell cars are the future. The topic of sustainability plays a decisive role here.
Production of hydrogen will play a crucial role in the future
The Toyota Mirai Concept, which gives a glimpse of the second generation of the fuel cell sedan Mirai, plays a decisive role here. This should be on the road in 2020. According to Tanaka, the well-to-wheel analysis is currently in a phase of change, which will probably play its part in making hydrogen cheaper and more sustainable in the years to come. As a brief explanation, the analysis method considers the entire chain of effects for locomotion, from obtaining and providing the drive energy to converting it into kinetic energy.
Tanaka explained to autoweek.Com that is the most cost-effective method for the production of hydrogen – the use of natural gas for recovering the hydrogen. However, the key to the future lies in how to produce hydrogen with the lowest CO2 emissions, which is really the most important factor. In the future, the aim must be to use solar energy and wind energy to produce hydrogen by electrolysis. In Japan, this type of research and development takes place at the government level.
One of the world’s largest electrolytic water-producing hydrogen plants is currently located in Fukushima, Japan. The Fukushima Hydrogen Energy Research Field will open in spring, with a 10th.000 kW hydrogen production plant that produces several hundred tons of hydrogen per year through electrolysis with the help of solar panels. Using sustainable, green energy, the well-to-wheel analysis will be significantly better than it has been so far.
Hydrogen offers the possibility of storing regenerative energy
It should not be forgotten that hydrogen can not only be used in cars. Rather, it is an energy source that can also be used for other purposes. The big advantage, however, is that it can store green energy – wind, water and solar energy – when the electricity is generated. This means that the green energy for your own fuel cell vehicle is always available when you need it. However, the Toyota chief engineer also indicates that the best solution would be if regenerative energy is used directly from the source to charge the electric vehicles.
According to Tanaka, in addition to the storage of regenerative energy, the fact that the charging times of the vehicles are correspondingly short and the density of the energy storage is very high also speaks in favor of the use of hydrogen. In other words, a large truck, van or ship can refuel a lot of energy relatively quickly. However, Toyota’s chief engineer also confirms the statements of other experts to use hydrogen primarily in commercial vehicles and less in passenger cars.
Toyota continues to pioneer fuel cell technology
A brief introduction to the classification of the Mira mentioned at the beginning in the second generation. Toyota, as a pioneer in fuel cell technology, has produced more than 10 vehicles from the first Mirai vehicle generation over the entire production period.000 units made and sold worldwide. The Mirai, still a niche vehicle with a good 3 worldwide.000 vehicles per year, should then be on the road significantly more often “in the not too distant future”. With the commissioning of the new production facility next year, a significant increase in production can be achieved: 30.000 vehicles of the new Toyota Mirai will be produced. By 2025, Toyota intends to offer electrified drive options in all model series, and by the 2020s at least ten models with purely battery-electric drive will be available worldwide.
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12 thoughts on “Toyota genuinely believes hydrogen cell cars are the future!”
Hydrogen may indeed offer a theoretical possibility of energy storage. (e.g.b. stationary storage stations)
But the energy expenditure is 3 times higher than using rechargeable batteries.
D.H. If we already have to generate massive alternative energies now, this project, which cannot be tackled at the moment, can be achieved 3 times less with hydrogen.
The dangers of this technology cannot be dismissed out of hand – the infrastructure also costs insane money.
Therefore, I cannot understand the decisions in favor of hydrogen, explicitly for individual transport, in any form.
Even the Japanese and Chinese cannot disregard physics.
For the electrification of all passenger cars in Germany, the electricity requirement would only increase by 15% and the network would hardly have to be strengthened since the off-peak times could almost always be used for charging.
If three times the amount of electrical energy has to be used for hydrogen .. yes WHERE should all the wind turbines be located??? Where should all the h2 tanks with their explosive gas be housed? How and when and with what should the H2 be transported to the consumer? Low pressure pipelines and compressors at each tank? High pressure or refrigerated in trucks? Who thinks of the low density and transport volume for the stuff?
Even the simplest of ideas show that these are all pipe dreams ..
Let the Japanese do it .. their money ..
Hydrogen cannot be an option. The level of efficiency and the costs – and thus the price – are far too high to be able to compete with pure electric cars in the future. And these will be delivered to us in bulk from China at reasonable prices. In the case of hydrogen/fuel cells, hydrogen is produced from natural gas (which already has a CO2 and cost burden), which is stored in special, expensive tanks, delivered to filling stations in special, expensive tankers and stored there again in special, expensive tanks. Then it is poured there into special expensive cars with special expensive tanks. In the cars, electricity is generated from hydrogen, which then drives the car. So make hydrogen from natural gas to make electricity from it and water from it?? Are you crazy? Not only are these cars much more expensive than BEVs, they also take up more space for the tank and the entire system. There is less for passengers and luggage. On top of that, the system is dangerous and can easily explode, as just happened in Norway. The well-to-wheel efficiency is even worse than with diesel. The classic industry/investors are trying to replace the old, expensive cycle with hydrogen, from which financiers earn massive amounts, with an even more complicated and expensive system. Citizens should pay you for it. Apart from that, the train towards pure BEVs has already left for years, investments have been made and the cars are already being built in millions of units. There should be a really big advantage for consumers, so that they buy a more expensive hydrogen car, if there are any in series production, accept the hassle of looking for a gas station and the annual check of the tank, the risk of the tank exploding , buy the expensive hydrogen etc. p.p. No investor in their right mind will invest in this technology.
As soon as hydrogen cannot be produced from natural gas and with an ecologically sensible CO2 footprint, these vehicles should be approved for the mass market.
Currently, the production of hydrogen is equivalent to petrol and diesel, which is de facto pure eyewash!
I think the automotive industry is doing some research in order to collect the quite high subsidies and then sell the result profitably in other sectors. The Chinese manufacturers are directly or indirectly involved in shipbuilding, heavy construction machinery, trains, etc. involved. Because I don’t see any sensible use in the passenger car sector for the next 15 years.
It can definitely work in China, as it can further reduce their dependency on oil, but Australia as a H2 supplier can be more easily replaced by another country. And the Chinese can be consistent, as they have already shown in several areas.
Blablablubbb… Hydrogen. The next attempt to gloss over a technology from the day before yesterday.
Battery prices are falling every year and as further technological leaps are to be expected, the future is to be placed in battery storage.
40 years ago, these discussions were already being held in our high school class. Then as now the answer is the same it needs the mix and there are different systems for different requirements.
Why must there always be only one solution for people??
There is a reason why hydrogen production will take place in Fukushima.
My conspiracy theory: Electricity actually comes from nuclear power.
Here in Germany, the issue will be dead faster than it begins. At the latest when the first owner realizes that he cannot get beyond the German borders with his hydrogen car.
It’s a pity that the comment area is spammed by the same people as soon as the hydrogen falls. Mainly because the report was read correctly by them again.
The hydrogen skeptics should ask themselves the question of how efficient wind turbines are that have been switched off and are idle because there is currently too much renewable energy available. This is already often the case today, and millions of kilowatt hours are wasted because there are no storage options. The energy transition is only just beginning. With an increasing number of wind parks and PV farms, the excess energy will also increase enormously. Anyone who thinks that you can easily store all of this in gigantic long-term battery storage systems with 90% efficiency in the summer months and then charge the electricity back into your electric car batteries with a further great 90% during the long winter nights, is very wrong. The hydrogen economy is coming, whether the hydrogen is then fueled into a FC vehicle, or reconverted into electricity to be fueled into a battery car. Nobody will ask about the efficiency as long as the price is right. And in the end it will be right again. Not today, but in 20 to 25 years. And that’s faster than some think. Toyota is just thinking ahead, like they did with the hybrid.
Japan brings up the rear when it comes to generating renewable energy. The government plans to produce hydrogen in Australia with coal flow and bring with tankers to Japan. The experimental electrolysis is pure eyeway. The aim of the hydrogen lobby is not to consider the CO2 resulting in the production. China also goes this path. Hydrogen from coal flow is therefore CO2-free.
Hydrogen combined with powerful batteries. That will come.